. >> it's always been somebody who steps forward to take the mantle of the big 10 and ronald reagan being the classic examples. you don't have to be a pragmatic political force, that's the difference, it takes a voice to make that clear. you can't have all of these republican districts to negotiate and you need somebody and the problem is you don't need-- >> and right, how did they coalesced, the left did. >> around barack obama. >> and amazing, too, because as bob knows better than anyone, the presidential campaign they help out with the candidates and listen, we have he got focus on this guy elected and pretty much on your own and i think they were somewhat, in my opinion, somewhat in awe of barack obama what he's done at such a young age, never really one of the guys who's been there for 40 years and decided to run like senator dole and senator mccain. but i was pretty much in awe in the mid term elections on what the tea party did. i've never seen anything like it. >> even in this election, the tea party the down tick-- >> the down tick, let's remember, twice as many people, in 2010 w